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Late-term abortions....
Taboo subject without doubt, now we have a late term abortion center here in Dallas abortions of up to 6 months and the bible thumpers are all over the TV.
They keep saying adoption is the key but considering how hard it is to adopt, these kids are stuck in the system untill they turn 18. I worked for CPS for 2 years out of college and over half of those kids i worked with would have been better if not being born.
Hell not even the hollywood scene wants anything to do with american orphans, WTF is up with that? They have the money as the average adoptions in the states runs from 15-75 grand.
Whats you alls take in this subject. Im pro-abortion 100%, and so are most Dr, and CPS workers who have seen what really happens to unwanted kids.
http://www.txcn.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/tv/stories/wfaa091103_mo_lateterm.280b5b454.html
DALLAS - Dr. Curtis Boyd, who opened the first abortion clinic in North Texas 36 years ago, has expanded his practice and now provides a rare more controversial procedure known as a late-term abortion for women up to six months pregnant.
“I've been working day and night to get this open," he said when asked why he saw a need for such a procedure.
Dr. Boyd opened the Fairmount Center, Texas' first abortion clinic, in 1973.
But, after 36 years, his practice has outgrown the small office at Fairmount Street and Cedar Springs Road near Uptown.
He merged the clinic with Aaron Women’s Health Center and then reopened them both under a new umbrella known as the Southwestern Women’s Surgery Center at Royal Lane and Greenville Avenue last week.
Unlike his other clinic, the new location is a surgery center, which means Boyd and his staff are now able to offer late-term abortions for women in their second trimester up to six months or 24-weeks pregnant.
"For us, since we'll be serving such a large area, we'll probably see 2,000 second trimester abortions a year," he projected.
This is the only place of its kind in North Texas. But, it’s controversial because the fetus in the second trimester is viable.
"Before this opened, they're flying to Albuquerque,” Boyd said of his patients. “They were flying to Kansas, flying to Colorado, sometimes they went to Atlanta. So, there are women who desperately need and want this service and it wasn't available.”
"It is not illegal,” conceded Karen Garnett, Catholic Pro-Life Committee. "But, just because something's legal doesn't mean it's right. Slavery was legal and it wasn't right. Segregation was legal but it wasn't right. Abortion is legal but it's not right."
The Catholic Pro-Life Committee of Dallas relocated sidewalk counselors to the new clinic hoping to prevent women from going inside.
"We feel that if people don't see the other side then hearts will not be converted,” said Jackie Lee, a sidewalk counselor of seven years. “We're here to convert hearts."
Lee and her colleagues said their vigils at Dallas' five abortion clinics have saved 3,500 pregnancies since 1997.
Boyd said he too has staggering numbers, especially since second trimester abortions. He estimates that since opening the state's first clinic in 1973, his practice has performed 300,000 abortions.
At 72, Boyd is full of energy, vowing not to stop anytime soon. Those debating what he does vow the same.
At 4:30 p.m. Saturday, the Catholic Pro-Life Committee plan a prayer vigil and memorial outside Boyd’s old facility to remember the pregnancies women aborted.
Preventing two abortions Tuesday, Garnett said the sidewalk counselors have remained successful at the new location.
They keep saying adoption is the key but considering how hard it is to adopt, these kids are stuck in the system untill they turn 18. I worked for CPS for 2 years out of college and over half of those kids i worked with would have been better if not being born.
Hell not even the hollywood scene wants anything to do with american orphans, WTF is up with that? They have the money as the average adoptions in the states runs from 15-75 grand.
Whats you alls take in this subject. Im pro-abortion 100%, and so are most Dr, and CPS workers who have seen what really happens to unwanted kids.
http://www.txcn.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/tv/stories/wfaa091103_mo_lateterm.280b5b454.html
DALLAS - Dr. Curtis Boyd, who opened the first abortion clinic in North Texas 36 years ago, has expanded his practice and now provides a rare more controversial procedure known as a late-term abortion for women up to six months pregnant.
“I've been working day and night to get this open," he said when asked why he saw a need for such a procedure.
Dr. Boyd opened the Fairmount Center, Texas' first abortion clinic, in 1973.
But, after 36 years, his practice has outgrown the small office at Fairmount Street and Cedar Springs Road near Uptown.
He merged the clinic with Aaron Women’s Health Center and then reopened them both under a new umbrella known as the Southwestern Women’s Surgery Center at Royal Lane and Greenville Avenue last week.
Unlike his other clinic, the new location is a surgery center, which means Boyd and his staff are now able to offer late-term abortions for women in their second trimester up to six months or 24-weeks pregnant.
"For us, since we'll be serving such a large area, we'll probably see 2,000 second trimester abortions a year," he projected.
This is the only place of its kind in North Texas. But, it’s controversial because the fetus in the second trimester is viable.
"Before this opened, they're flying to Albuquerque,” Boyd said of his patients. “They were flying to Kansas, flying to Colorado, sometimes they went to Atlanta. So, there are women who desperately need and want this service and it wasn't available.”
"It is not illegal,” conceded Karen Garnett, Catholic Pro-Life Committee. "But, just because something's legal doesn't mean it's right. Slavery was legal and it wasn't right. Segregation was legal but it wasn't right. Abortion is legal but it's not right."
The Catholic Pro-Life Committee of Dallas relocated sidewalk counselors to the new clinic hoping to prevent women from going inside.
"We feel that if people don't see the other side then hearts will not be converted,” said Jackie Lee, a sidewalk counselor of seven years. “We're here to convert hearts."
Lee and her colleagues said their vigils at Dallas' five abortion clinics have saved 3,500 pregnancies since 1997.
Boyd said he too has staggering numbers, especially since second trimester abortions. He estimates that since opening the state's first clinic in 1973, his practice has performed 300,000 abortions.
At 72, Boyd is full of energy, vowing not to stop anytime soon. Those debating what he does vow the same.
At 4:30 p.m. Saturday, the Catholic Pro-Life Committee plan a prayer vigil and memorial outside Boyd’s old facility to remember the pregnancies women aborted.
Preventing two abortions Tuesday, Garnett said the sidewalk counselors have remained successful at the new location.
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i don't think the abortions are anyones business. people need to worry about themselves. there are better things to worry about in the world.

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the bible tumpers want to save the kids that no one wants, thats wack.
working CPS is the main reason i don't want any kids of my own, to many out there who need someone to love them. Who would have been better of in the burn bin than the streets where most end up.
I think you also say that being a man, it's easy for you to walk away from a onenight stand baby. The poor chick you knock up really only has one option, and it's an option that is a right these bible thumpers want to take away.
working CPS is the main reason i don't want any kids of my own, to many out there who need someone to love them. Who would have been better of in the burn bin than the streets where most end up.
I think you also say that being a man, it's easy for you to walk away from a onenight stand baby. The poor chick you knock up really only has one option, and it's an option that is a right these bible thumpers want to take away.
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I don't agree with late term ones. however, there needs to be less people on the planet. period. humans need to quit being such resource hogs. so, I'm torn.

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talking abortion on your birthday alan??
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Alan_ wrote:I don't agree with late term ones. however, there needs to be less people on the planet. period. humans need to quit being such resource hogs. so, I'm torn.
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CHURCH OF EUTHANASIA FOR THE WIN.

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Was listening to talk radio on the way home from class last night, and as usual, it was election politics mixed with a healthy dose of christian anti-abortion propaganda.
Some woman called in to say how she had an abortion when she was 17, but that she regretted it, especially now that she has two children and two grandchildren and "understands the miracle of life." I had half a mind to call and ask if she'd, if given the chance, trade those two kids and grandkids to go back and keep the baby.
My guess would be no. Regret is shit argument against anything.
Some woman called in to say how she had an abortion when she was 17, but that she regretted it, especially now that she has two children and two grandchildren and "understands the miracle of life." I had half a mind to call and ask if she'd, if given the chance, trade those two kids and grandkids to go back and keep the baby.
My guess would be no. Regret is shit argument against anything.

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This topic is way to grey to be pro or anti anything.
I do not support late term abortions, except some special and rare cases. If the mother is at risk, she should not lose her own rights to the baby.
I'm very proudly pro-choice, unfortunately, that is often misinterpreted as Pro-death.
I do not support late term abortions, except some special and rare cases. If the mother is at risk, she should not lose her own rights to the baby.
I'm very proudly pro-choice, unfortunately, that is often misinterpreted as Pro-death.

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hey, most pro-lifers support the death penalty, and are war-mongers to boot. 'nuff said.

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Alan_ wrote:hey, most pro-lifers support the death penalty, and are war-mongers to boot. 'nuff said.
sure, because those tend to effect them more directly. it's really easy to tell others what they should / should not do... but as soon as the tables turn, people often change thier beliefs to suit themselves.

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almost always.

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They think God wants you to have a chance for you to experience firearm ownership and defending your country. It's actually pretty similar to the Muslim idea of Heaven, except transported to Earth and instead doused in violence instead of tranquility and being served...

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btw, if I had tyrannical powers, I'd submit everyone to aptitude and emotional/psychological stability tests at age 13, if you fail, you're now infertile.

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DJ Cal Cutta wrote:btw, if I had tyrannical powers, I'd submit everyone to aptitude and emotional/psychological stability tests at age 13, if you fail, you're now infertile.
you know i almost agree with this. however, most females are emotionally and psychologically unstable at age 13 due to our changing bodies.... so i'm not sure that would be a fair test.
it's not surprising though that educated people tend to have fewer children.

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BDZZLR wrote:you know i almost agree with this. however, most females are emotionally and psychologically unstable at age 13 due to our changing bodies.... so i'm not sure that would be a fair test. .
lol @ "females". most males can't think about anything but sex and food until around 21.

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Seems like an airtight system to me...I think it would be quite a while until someone with less than perfect coping skills and high intelligence would be fit to be a parent.
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oh come on...think back to when you were 13. were you really all that put-together or sane?

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Nope, but that's the point. If I was to be absolutely serious here for a moment, I'll tell ya I don't think I've met anyone yet around my own age that I think *should* be a parent, that my standards for what would qualify to be a good parent are extremely high and pretty much absurd. The world's too much of a mess to think that just 'cause you're a good person means you'd be a good parent. Due to overpopulation and general turmoil, I think it's quite a charge to put to a person to raise someone that could actually help improve things(I see that as a responsibility).

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I brought this issue up for a # of reasons, but the main reason is the health care reform bill will pay for abortions and thats what really has these freaking bible thumping nutt jobs all out of wack.

WASHINGTON - NOVEMBER 05: Anti-abortion demonstrators Diana Roccograndi (R) of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, and Albert Stecklein of Bethesda, Maryland, wear paper masks of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) while protesting outside the Cannon House Office Building November 5, 2009 in Washington, DC. The protesters were voicing their opposition to Congress' health care reform legislation, saying it supports government funding of abortion.
Where is the separation of church and state here?
one $500 procedure can save the tax payer over 250,000 over the course of the unwanted childs life as most of the unwanted children end up in the system.
I am so willing to give up that 500buxz to save 250,000 on a life that was unwanted.
Late term is a lil more tricky, but most of those are due to health issues of fetus, or mother.

WASHINGTON - NOVEMBER 05: Anti-abortion demonstrators Diana Roccograndi (R) of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, and Albert Stecklein of Bethesda, Maryland, wear paper masks of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) while protesting outside the Cannon House Office Building November 5, 2009 in Washington, DC. The protesters were voicing their opposition to Congress' health care reform legislation, saying it supports government funding of abortion.
Where is the separation of church and state here?
one $500 procedure can save the tax payer over 250,000 over the course of the unwanted childs life as most of the unwanted children end up in the system.
I am so willing to give up that 500buxz to save 250,000 on a life that was unwanted.
Late term is a lil more tricky, but most of those are due to health issues of fetus, or mother.
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I'm down for abortion if it's early enough. I think late term abortions are sad, distgusting and irresponsible.

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